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For the last couple weeks, I've been hearing a lot of talk surrounding Tesla and "the electric car". What I'm curious of is whether or not it is more efficient to actually power an electric car (the power produced by the power plant) over a typical gas powered car. Obviously there are a lot of variables, where you drive, how, gas mileage, etc. Which is more sustainable in terms of , electric cars or gas-powered ones?

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  • see this answer on EVs. yes, EVs are more efficient, even if all the electricity comes from coal. if any electricity comes from renewables, EVs are even better. no contest. – Nate Aug 18 '13 at 19:38
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    I think this is pretty much a duplicate of Are electric cars as environmentally friendly as we think they are? - the answers there answer your question here – EnergyNumbers Aug 19 '13 at 6:28
  • Whenever you centralize a resource you increase efficiency, as long as too much isn't lost in transfer. There are some other issues (battery production) which you might not find such optimism, though. – Meep Nov 26 '13 at 20:06
  • I think the questions are different - this one addresses simple efficiency comparisons, while the other includes factors such as pollution, LCA, etc. The answers don't necessarily reflect the difference, though. – LShaver Dec 21 '16 at 19:04
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In terms of energy for movement, the electric car is more sustainable. There are two main resons for that.

Firstly, when hydrocarbons are burnt to provide movement, local pollution is released: NOx, particulates, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide.

And secondly, it's much easier to clean electricity, than to clean hydrocarbons. That's because the clean electricity resource is affordable and plentiful: solar, hydro and wind can together power the world many many times over.

Efficiency turns out to be a useful proxy, occasionally. But often it's misleading - it doesn't really get to the core of what we need to know. Electric engines are about four times as efficient as internal combustion engines. The efficiency of any wider system, would depend on where you draw the system boundary. And then you're adding up efficiencies that may or may not make sense. Wind, water and sunlight are free: does it make sense to include the efficiencies at which they are harvested? Efficiency is one of many things that affects the economics: but there are sufficient other factors that can more than make up for low efficiency.

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There are several factors to consider:

1) How efficient is the generating station? In general, if any attempt is made to capture "waste" heat and use it for domestic heating or some industrial process, the answer is "very".

2) How efficient is the transmission system? This can vary quite a bit, both from location to location and over time. For example, a system under heavy load is less efficient than one under less of a load. As load increases, you get more heating of the cables.

3) How efficient is the charging system? Modern battery chargers are more efficient, but any time you change voltages or convert alternating current to direct current (or vice versa) you have losses.

4) How much is lost as the battery sits there? NiMh batteries are far better than lead-acid. Some of the newer technologies promise to be better still.

5) How efficient is the motor and drivetrain of the car?

6) And last, but certainly not least, how much energy went into building the car? The least impactful product is the one that has already been produced!

Of course, ultimately, the best answer is to ride mass transit, if you really must travel.

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    downvoted because this answer is not helpful - the OP may be aware of all these factors but was looking for data. And your point 6 is outside the scope of the question. – half-integer fan Nov 24 '13 at 14:03
  • @half-integerfan, none of the other answers include numeric data either. Only the comments do. Why pick on this one author? ... Regarding (6), it is absolutely in scope. We are not starting from horse and buggy days. People already have cars and might buy a Tesla to save energy before the previous car is at end of product life, which is likely to be counterproductive. Perhaps (6) should be removed from the list and put in a paragraph. I'll agree there. Items 1-5 are important factors to include in any unbiased analysis. ... Are you sure Dave's answer is inferior to the others? I don't see it. – Douglas Daseeco Jan 1 '17 at 6:55

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