To support my idea of Sustainable Living, I'd like to reuse costs spent by my family of purchasing high-end Type2 charger by using it not just to charge up our EV car.

Are there any battery-powered non-car vehicles (bikes, motorbikes, scooters, etc.) that can be charged (without any socket modifications) from a regular Type2 cable that my charger has?

Or is this socket solely for charging EVs only?

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    You'd need something with a big battery to justify a connector that large and complex. Even a large motorbike could fully charge in an hour or less from one. So there's no benefit rto having it, and on a bicycle the extra 1-2kg from the socket would be significant.
    – Móż
    Commented Jan 30, 2023 at 22:12
  • You can not save by buying more. Commented Feb 1, 2023 at 10:21
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    Do you mean like ordinary golf carts ? Commented Feb 3, 2023 at 16:42
  • @blacksmith37 I mean anything smaller than an EV, powered via Type 2.
    – trejder
    Commented Feb 5, 2023 at 19:00
  • Will Prowse suggested recently that he might be able to charge his very large "portable power station" things that way. Or at least faster than the 100V/15A that the US is normally limited to
    – Móż
    Commented Feb 5, 2023 at 22:41

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Yes, electric motorcycles (actual motorcycles rather than e-bikes or pedelecs) can charge from Type 2 (and CCS) chargers.

Examples include Energica, Harley Davidson Livewire and Zero motorcycles

  • For Zero it seems that Type 2 is not supported. The Level 2 graphics shows something different to me than Type 2. It is weird, because Level 3 charging shows CSS and CSS is extension of Type 2. But... the graphic in Level 2 charging is surely different than a typical Type 2 socket.
    – trejder
    Commented Feb 11, 2023 at 18:11

First, to be clear, the type 2 charger isn't a charger at all. It's just a switch (the video disclaims Europe but actually Mennekes works the same way with same protocols, just with 3-phase sometimes available). It goes "CLACK"! Well it also contains an RCD aka GFCI, and a simple signal generator to tell your car how much power is safe to draw from the wall. The entire comm protocol can be explained in 20 minutes. If you watched that video, it was.

The charger is on the car. It's the size of a suitcase, water cooled, and it gets HOT.

Anything that takes 230V can have a Type 2 port added.

If it already has a Type 1 (J1772) port, then change it to a Type 2 and wire it to the same pins. You won't use the L2 or L3 pins.

I assume anything with a Type 1 port has been gray-market imported from North America. The Type 2/Mennekes port is not used there.

Otherwise you can take its 230V (or 120V) wall plug, and reroute that to a Type 2 inlet, pins L1 and N... with a couple of necessary steps.

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First, you need to manage the signal on the CP line. You normally have a 2740 ohm resistor across the CP and PE pins; when your device wants to charge, add a 1300 ohm resistor and the EVSE will go CLACK!

Second, if your battery charger can pull more than about 4 amps, you need to add a relay to disconnect it when the EVSE is offering less amps than the charger needs. That's a blunt instrument, but it's easy to implement with an Arduino.

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