# How much CO2 do those gas flame pits outside restaurants emit?

I've been noticing gas-fueled flame pit displays outside some "hip" restaurants, such as this one shown in a Portland Monthly article. I find myself reacting to them with disgust; it looks like they're blowing fossil carbon into the sky like there's literally no tomorrow. The one in the linked article at least has people sitting around it; sometimes they're just alone out front, advertising the owner's environmental folly.

However, I don't know how much CO2 such a display actually emits. Our environmental instincts aren't very accurate, and I fear that I may be getting huffy about these minor displays while blindly causing far more emissions elsewhere in my life.

So, my question is this: how much CO2 does such a display emit relative to an average person's total environmental load? Is it equivalent to one percent of an average person's total emissions? All of a single person's? One hundred people's? Or you could compare it to other typical fuel-related activities: is it a Prius doing 35 mph? A Hummer doing 75 mph? Twenty loaded tractor-trailers on the highway? The Allure of the Seas carrying a full load of vacationers across the Caribbean? (Well, probably not the last one...)

For a baseline, use three of this Uptown Fire Pit Tables. It has a 12" x 42" burner (powered by a 20 pound propane tank in the base), and claims to produce up to 88,000 BTUs, although I'll assume they mean 88,000 BTU/hour. So, the baseline would be a 12" x 10' burner emitting 264,000 BTUs/hour.

Taking this video as a reference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYZKGlxutfw), a 20 lb (I take that as 10 kg) tank as in your burner lasts for 6 to 12 hours. So roughly 1 kg per hour.

Assuming pure propane, which has 36 g/mol C and 8 g/mol H, every kg of propane contains 36/44 kg carbon. Under complete combustion this leads to 3 kg CO2, so that is your hourly C)2 emission.

For comparison: Manufacturers of cars report something around 100 g/km (e.g. for a Mercedes C-Class) as CO2 emission. That value is of course highly optimistic. But if we assume these values, you need to drive roughly 30 km in order to emit 3 kg of CO2.

Working from @Christoph's answer, here's what I get:

• Baseline heat emission is 264,000 BTU/hour (at full blast)
• 43,700 BTU in a kilogram of propane, so that's 6 kg/hour
• 6 kg of propane contains 6 x 36 / 44 = 4.9 kg of carbon
• 4.9 kg of carbon forms 4.9 x 44 / 12 = 18 kg of CO2 emitted by the fire pit per hour.

Comparing to driving my own car:

• I drive a 2015 Golf S automatic, which burns about 6.9 L of gasoline per 100 km on the highway
• Burning 1 L of gasoline emits around 2.4 kg of CO2
• My car emits 16.6 kg of CO2 per 100 km at highway speeds.

So, that fire pit emits about what my car emits at highway speeds, constantly. On its own that isn't apocalyptic, but I still find it pretty irritating.

(Since @Christoph was working from the emissions of a single burner, and I was asking about three in order to match the larger burners I see at restaurants, our answers match pretty well.)

• Actually, intuition could have had the solution to the whole issue somewhat easier. We are looking at roughly 1l fossil fuel consumption per hour and burner. Ignoring all the differences between fuels, we expect to get the same emissions as from driving one liter's worth of distance.
– Christoph
Commented Sep 8, 2015 at 7:37